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Why does my position look wrong?

A position can look wrong in a few ways: pointing the wrong way (a short you didn’t mean to open), the wrong size, holding trades you don’t recognise, or numbers that don’t match your exchange. It usually comes down to one of a handful of causes, and most are straightforward to sort out.

The usual causes

A wrong start date on a manual position. A manual position contains the trades that fall after its start date, so if that date is off it pulls in trades it shouldn’t, which can throw off the size, the analytics, and even the apparent direction. This is the most common reason for a spot short you didn’t set out to open. One thing to know: the start time is set to the minute, not the second, so if two trades happened in the same minute you can’t include one and exclude the other.

A second, unintended position on the same market — the kind a wrong manual start date can create.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version A leftover exit from a smart position that closed unexpectedly. If a smart position closed when it shouldn’t have, an exit order it had already placed can be left behind. Whether it shows up straight away depends on the order type: a smart order creates a Pending position right away, whereas a regular order doesn’t become a position until it fills, since manual positions are built from trades, not orders. The stray position is always on the opposite side to the one you had, because the first filled order sets a position’s side: a buy makes it a long, a sell makes it a short (marked B or S in the Position Info widget), and a leftover exit sits on the opposite side to your original entries.

A new order placed instead of editing the position. This one is normal behaviour rather than a fault. Any order that isn’t an edit to an existing position starts a new one: a smart order shows straight away as a Pending position, while a regular order only becomes a position once it fills (again, manual positions are based on trades, not orders). So if you meant to add to or exit a position but placed a fresh order instead, you end up with a second position rather than a change to the first.

Missing trades. If Altrady doesn’t have all the trades behind a position, the position it builds won’t match reality. This can happen on both spot and futures, and is actually more likely on spot, because spot positions often run over a longer period, leaving more room for older trades to fall outside what was imported. Futures, for their part, hand over less trade history when you first connect them. On futures the Position Info widget flags this for you: it shows that the position’s remaining amount doesn’t match the exchange’s open amount. There’s no such flag on spot, so a spot mismatch shows up as numbers that look off rather than a warning.

The Position Info widget on a futures position, flagging that the position’s remaining amount doesn’t match the exchange’s open amount.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version A close that left a remainder. A market close has to estimate the size, so it can leave a small amount behind, and the position stays open with a little size still in it rather than fully closing. See market order price protection. It’s most common on spot shorts; clear it by adding a take-profit for the remaining amount.

How to check what a position is built from

  • Look at the Investments section of the Position Info widget, and at My Orders > Closed, to see what has filled and when.

The Position Info widget’s Investments section beside the chart, showing the fills that make up two positions on the market.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version The My Orders widget set to Closed, listing the filled orders behind the position.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version - To inspect the individual trades, use the trade arrows on the chart. The Position Info widget has no trade list, so the chart arrows are the only way to see individual trades. For the fill prices and sizes, enable Show Prices and Show quantity in the Closed Order tab of the Chart Settings; this shows the gross fill amounts at each price.

Chart Settings with Show Prices and Show quantity enabled on the Closed Order tab, so each trade’s fill price and size show on the chart.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version ## How to fix it

Wrong trades (wrong start date). Correct the position’s start date so it holds the right trades, remembering that the start time is set to the minute. Only a manual position’s start date can be edited, so convert it to manual first if it’s currently a smart position.

Editing a manual position’s start date so it holds the right trades.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version Missing trades. Click the resync arrow, then import the missing trades

The resync arrow on a position, used to pull in missing trades.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version A stray or opposite-side position (a leftover exit, or a new order placed instead of an edit). Both come down to the same thing: a filled order that isn’t part of your smart position, so it started a position of its own. To fold it back in:

If the original position is still open:

  1. Convert the smart position to manual. A manual position is defined by its start date, so from that date onward it takes in the market’s trades, including the stray one.
  2. Delete the erroneous position. This removes only that grouping, not the underlying trade; with the original position now date-based, the filled order is counted inside it instead.
  3. To put automated management (take profits and stop loss) back on, convert the position back to smart.

Converting a smart position to a manual one from the position’s menu.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version If the original smart position has already closed:

  1. Delete the closed smart position.
  2. Create a new manual position with its start date set to the first filled order you want to include. Being date-based, it picks up the stray trade along with the rest.

Creating a new manual position with its start date set to the first fill you want to include.🔍 Click the image to see a larger version To avoid it in future: to add to or exit a position, edit the position itself rather than placing a separate order.

Still stuck?

If the position still looks wrong after checking its trades and start date, share a screenshot of the Position Info widget along with the market and account so the team can check it against your trade history. You can reach our support team anytime through the chat bubble in the bottom-right corner of our Help Center at help.altrady.com.

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